This is brilliant Rob & your comment re the nurse overseeing a health care system was so on point for me! I think I go into my ENTP network a lot when I'm alone reading about the state of our mental health care system in the UK & thinking about the broad holistic overview of where we're at. It's not a pretty picture...stagnation due to lack of economic resources & an endorsement of a biomedical model of mental health that isn't quite reflective of objective reality. If you put a patient on sertraline (ssri) and then send them back out to live in a shit hole with no employment prospects or social support, would you expect their mood to improve? Nope. It always comes back to a fundamental flaw in ideation & not looking at reality from a systemic perspective. ENTPs I find are realists, for the most part, who can see this reality for what it really is. Me, I'm now a pessimist who lacks the Se impetus to do anything about it. I remember being a bright eyed ENFJ student of the default variety some ten years ago when I thought I could really make a difference. Don't get me wrong, I still think I can but the way in which I do that, how I do that & by what avenue have changed. I think we need to cement ourselves into positions in which we have the influence & resources to be listened to...That's a hard pill to swallow with my allegiance to Ti I can be pretty uncompromising & don't like sugar coating the truth for the sake of a promotion. I don't think that most people are impervious to Ti truths however at least for the most part; most people simply leave & venture onto pastures new, circumventing their reality in the process. I'm sure my enneagram - 5w6 plays an integral role here...I now just end up hoarding the product of my insights & keeping myself to myself & try & pass on my wisdom (one can hope) to the people I'm fortunate to care for.
Feel connected here as an enneagram 9 ENFP on the calmer side of NE doms than people stereotype that swore was in touch with reality and has noticed more things than my dad who I'm guessing is a sensor ESTJ
This is brilliant Rob & your comment re the nurse overseeing a health care system was so on point for me! I think I go into my ENTP network a lot when I'm alone reading about the state of our mental health care system in the UK & thinking about the broad holistic overview of where we're at. It's not a pretty picture...stagnation due to lack of economic resources & an endorsement of a biomedical model of mental health that isn't quite reflective of objective reality. If you put a patient on sertraline (ssri) and then send them back out to live in a shit hole with no employment prospects or social support, would you expect their mood to improve? Nope. It always comes back to a fundamental flaw in ideation & not looking at reality from a systemic perspective. ENTPs I find are realists, for the most part, who can see this reality for what it really is. Me, I'm now a pessimist who lacks the Se impetus to do anything about it. I remember being a bright eyed ENFJ student of the default variety some ten years ago when I thought I could really make a difference. Don't get me wrong, I still think I can but the way in which I do that, how I do that & by what avenue have changed. I think we need to cement ourselves into positions in which we have the influence & resources to be listened to...That's a hard pill to swallow with my allegiance to Ti I can be pretty uncompromising & don't like sugar coating the truth for the sake of a promotion. I don't think that most people are impervious to Ti truths however at least for the most part; most people simply leave & venture onto pastures new, circumventing their reality in the process. I'm sure my enneagram - 5w6 plays an integral role here...I now just end up hoarding the product of my insights & keeping myself to myself & try & pass on my wisdom (one can hope) to the people I'm fortunate to care for.
Feel connected here as an enneagram 9 ENFP on the calmer side of NE doms than people stereotype that swore was in touch with reality and has noticed more things than my dad who I'm guessing is a sensor ESTJ